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March 23rd, 2010

Social Networks, Privacy and The New Obscurity

Danah Boyd Privacy Fight SXSWi

Very briefly here are a few things I learned at this year’s SXSWi Conference – 1. SXSWi may have already jumped the shark. This year the conference appeared to be packed with people who felt that they had to be there or that the idea of a once-a-year party was too much to pass up. No other reason. 2. Many panelists forgot that being on a panel requires being prepared and that they are there to share their wisdom, or at the very least entertain us. [The NYT columnist David Carr also mentioned this lack of sparkle.] 3. The biggest buzz was which new platform would be this year’s Twitter. I mean c’mon people… 4. Geeks live in a bubble and SXSWi provides the biggest bubble of all. 5. Judging by the overuse of Foursquare and Gowalla, conference attendees do not have any privacy concerns, or perhaps they are happy with the idea that “privacy is dead.”

I’ve written often of our anthropological need to stay in touch with friends and family, and that technology merely shortens the distance between us. What I am now interested in is how to handle living in public while attempting to hold on to my privacy. And while I’m at it, I thought I’d take a look at the numbers game that occurs in social networking and how that relates to the quality of friends and followers, versus quantity.

Let’s start with privacy. During SXSWi Foursquare use was rampant, I was getting literally hundreds of Foursquare updates a day from people I follow on Twitter. It became incredibly annoying because a message like this – “I’m at Mohawk, 722 Red River, Austin TX with 171 others” – is of no importance to me as it lacks context. Ok, so it could be argued that the message conveys a trending topic of where SXSWi attendees are gathering, which may be useful to some, but I expected that everyone would be at the Mohawk at some time during the conference. Why wouldn’t they? Free food and drink always succeeds in creating lines around blocks.

But, all sarcasm aside, I like what Chris Conrey has to say about the phenomenon of sharing our whereabouts. In his post titled, Why I Deleted Foursquare and Gowalla After SXSW, he says: “I don’t see the value to the end user in these things. What I do see is a huge data mine for marketers, advertisers and stalkers to glean for information.” As for worrying about stalkers, thankfully there’s always PleaseRobMe.com to help folks begin to understand that privacy is, on the whole, a good thing.

As Chris points out, our real friends would let us know their whereabouts via Twitter, text or IM if they wanted to really share that info with people they care about. And they would also supply context, as in its definition – the set of facts or circumstances that surround a situation or event. In other words, “I’m down at the Coach and Horses having a drink with Charlie, and Anne and Pete will join us later…” That’s a little more personal than “with 171 others..” It’s also a private message.

@simonmainwaring
“In life, private by default, public by effort is normal. In social media its the opposite.” #SXSW #danahboyd

That sentence, posted to Twitter by Simon Mainwaring, is an excerpt from a keynote speech that danah boyd, [she uses only lowercase letters in her name,] a Social Media Researcher at Microsoft Research New England and a Fellow at Harvard University’s Berkman Center for Internet and Society, gave at the 2010 SXSWi Conference.

She also said “Privacy isn’t hiding, it’s control.” Here’s a crib of her entire speech at SXSW, here’s her blog and this is her message to Google’s Eric Schmidt:

DEAR ERIC SCHMIDT, PRIVACY IS NOT DEAD. KTHXBY.

And she continues: “No matter how many times a privileged straight white male technology executive pronounces the death of privacy, Privacy Is Not Dead. People of all ages care deeply about privacy. And they care just as much about privacy online as they do offline. But what privacy means may not be what you think.

Fundamentally, privacy is about having control over how information flows. It’s about being able to understand the social setting in order to behave appropriately. To do so, people must trust their interpretation of the context, including the people in the room and the architecture that defines the setting. When they feel as though control has been taken away from them or when they lack the control they need to do the right thing, they scream privacy foul.”

Privacy foul? Google Buzz anyone..?

The Quantity of Your Friends and Followers Versus the Quality; It’s A Numbers Game.

So, if the idea of social networks is to further conversation, then the problem is in the numbers game. I mean, how often do we see this on Twitter? – “hey tweeps, I’m almost at 9,950 followers help me get to 10k by end of day.” The first question I would ask would be, why do you want to achieve a certain number of followers? The second would be, how on earth will you have a true conversation with 10k+ followers? Arguably the answer to the first question is “look at me, aren’t I so special” and to the second, there is no way one can have a meaningful relationship or conversation with that many people.

Which brings us to Dunbar’s Number. From Wikipedia: “Dunbar’s number is a theoretical cognitive limit to the number of people with whom one can maintain stable social relationships. These are relationships in which an individual knows who each person is, and how each person relates to every other person. Proponents assert that numbers larger than this generally require more restrictive rules, laws, and enforced norms to maintain a stable, cohesive group. No precise value has been proposed for Dunbar’s number, but a commonly cited approximation is 150.”

That’s 150 people. As in your family, kin and all other close friends. Dunbar points out that it’s difficult to compare the quality of relationships versus the outcome of the relationship, but he says the time invested in relationships is directly related to the improvement of quality in those relationships. As you add more friends beyond the 150 he says that its akin to dropping a pebble in a pond and watching the ripples fan out across the surface. Each ripple represents a layer of relationships that are of a significantly lower quality than the initial 150. Oddly the layers scale in a consistent pattern of 10, 20, 100 etc, so when it comes to social networks he argues that any messaging or traffic really only speaks to the inner core [those 150] just like in offline relationships.

[Robin Dunbar is working on a study of Facebook and MySpace to be published later in 2010.] Watch a video of Dunbar’s talk to the RSC in London – How Many Friends Does One Person Need?

Clive Thompson’s article in the February 2010 edition of Wired Magazine, In Praise of Obscurity, also discusses social network users and their followers, where he wrote of the problem of follower scale – “…at a few hundred or a few thousand followers, they’re having fun – but any bigger and it falls apart. Social media stops being social. It’s no longer a bantering process of thinking and living out loud. It becomes old fashioned broadcasting.

So much for “earned media” then, we’ve unwittingly come full circle back to mass messaging. And the lesson?

He suggests: “There’s value in obscurity. After all, the world’s bravest and most important ideas are often forged away from the spotlight — in small, obscure groups of people who are passionately interested in a subject and like arguing about it. They’re willing to experiment with risky or dumb concepts because they’re among intimates. [It was, after all, small groups of marginal weirdos that brought us the computer, democracy, and the novel.]“

Which brings me back to SXSWi – the most interesting conversations that I had were either in the back channel, at dinner, or over drinks well away from the conference centre and often well away from downtown Austin and the party action. Here in Portland, at a recent dinner hosted by Intel’s Bryan Rhoads, I had a great discussion with him, W+K’s Renny Gleeson, China expert, Sam Flemming, Webtrends’ Justin Kistner and others, where, to use danah boyd’s phrase “context in environment,” the people in the room and the architecture defined the setting and therefore the conversation. The evening was a true social networking event. Context in these situations is when you can look someone in the eye and note their body language, things that help you interact and converse.

So, when do we back out of the Social Web, dump most of our Facebook “friends,” and relegate ourselves to one really good and useful Tweet a day, or one insightful blog post? Or should I say, when do we stop airing our dirty laundry while living in public..? As danah boyd said at SXSWi “In life, private by default, public by effort is normal. In social media its the opposite.”

As of the time of writing this post I currently have 6312 followers of @Pampelmoose and 842 followers of @DaveAtFight on Twitter. On Facebook I have 2,376 “friends.” My blog gets more than 250k unique visits a month. That’s a lot of “friends..”

WIll you continue using social networks and building up your friends and followers numbers? Are you happy sharing your personal data with 3rd party corporations? Or is 150 friends quite enough and does relative obscurity sound appealing?

Dave Allen
  • CarriBugbee

    Dave, you make many great points here. I've been saying the exact same thing about Foursquare, Gowalla and their ilk for a long time. They don't solve a problem I (or most users) have — they only solve problems that merchants have.

    For that reason, I'm very skeptical that they'll go mainstream outside of the social media echo chamber. When you talk about these apps with people who don’t live and breathe in the space, most people (including marketers) are incredulous. They can't imagine why anyone would use them.

    Of course, the privacy issues of constantly sharing your whereabouts (not to mention the tweetstream “pollution”) presents an even bigger problem. This is primarily a gender issue, and I haven’t seen even one blogger or journalist cover this. All it will take is one high-profile stalking incident – and an impending lawsuit by that woman’s family (because it will be a woman who gets stalked) – and Foursquare won’t know what hit it. The company (or one of its competitors) will be on Nancy Grace every night, they’ll get pounded in the press, and the general public will look at the social media fanboys (and girls) like they were insane.

    You heard it here first: I think Foursquare will be the HomeGrocer of the social media bubble. The irrational exuberance has begun again. But it won’t last forever.

    @CarrBugbee

  • http://www.wswilliams.com/ wendy

    I agree with several of your points in the essay Dave. It's my belief, however, that social media is providing the skeleton for a new communications infrastructure rather than a personal experience. I think the current backlash articles I am seeing are mostly due to confusion and disappointment among people who see them as a lackluster replacement for real contact, rather than accepting them for what they are (kind of an expanded, interactive directory).

    -wendy (formerly from Toolshed)

  • kmazz

    Great post, and it happens to correspond exactly to my sentiments. Stalking was the first thing I thought of when I first heard about Gowalla and FourSquare. I don't care how much fun they are, they are risky. Like Carri, I suspect there is a gender division of opinion on this topic. SoMe is too crowded, too meaningless and too random. FB has become depersonalized. Twitter is still useful to me personally as an information source — the mainstream media is the last recourse for me on a daily basis by now as it is for many of us — which is why I only follow about 200 interesting people and keep rotating and purging the list to keep it relevant and free of noise. Eventually, as more media dies off, I will join some special interest communities that go beyond my Twitter stream. But I won't join anything that broadcasts any of my personal data!

  • http://www.wswilliams.com/ wendy

    The whole “how many followers do you have” part of twitter is absolutely of no interest to me, as that is not where the context of twitter (for both prospecting and discovery) lies…it's all in the niche and search capabilities and the use of a deck (such as Seesmic). It puts Twitter into 3-D. I pretty much ignore the people I follow unless they are speaking about something I'm interested in.

    As for FB, the more the merrier, I guess. If I get too much spam from people I don't know well, or if someone's views and community are offensive to me, I nuke the connection.

  • http://www.wswilliams.com/ wendy

    As Clay Shirkey said once: “The problem is not information overload, it's filter failure.”

    (saw this as a comment on another thread, but it seems apt)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Allen/1110152144 Dave Allen

    Thank you all for your insights so far. ( I'm wondering when the guys will jump in and support 4Sq and GoWalla, but I'm patient!) I'm getting the feeling that as the term Social Media becomes a little frayed at the edges, it will soon reach a tipping point. It has, after all, been around for a long time. That's why I like the idea of the Social Web as it seems to offer more potential over the long run.
    I wonder who, if anyone, could have foreseen a time when we'd see millions of people happily sharing their most private and personal data with corporations, under the guise of being “social?” And how on earth did “public” become the default and “privacy” the opt-out in the likes of Facebook?
    danah boyd made some good points regarding when something posted in public does not necessarily mean that it should be made “more” public. Wendy points out below that Shirky says it's a “filter failure” issue but I'm not sure I agree. In Twitter I can easily filter my Fight account as I follow folks very carefully, but in my Pampelmoose account the pernicious auto-follow created problems which now means that I don't enter the stream of white noise created by 6,300+ followers of mine. Filtering is hard there. On Facebook I am about to start the cull to get my “friends” down closer to Dunbar's 150 number…

  • http://www.wswilliams.com/ wendy

    Dave, with the right tools (as I mentioned, I use Seesmic), the people you are “following” are all streamed in one ignorable column, while additional columns can be set up for particular searches using @ or #, so in the end it doesn't matter whether you are following 10 or 10K, you don't read the live feed (or at least I don't). I only respond to the things I am searching, and this makes twitter much more manageable, not to mention USABLE and relevant to me. This strategy is impossible without a deck, however.

    I actually manage 8 twitter accounts, and can post from all of them individually or even simultaneously (if I choose, which I generally don't). All 8 accounts have different audiences, and I respect what each one is looking for, but it's fun to find reasons for crossover and interconnectivity between different communities.

    I'm not really doing much in the music business anymore, but have found that many of the things that were SO overdone in that industry and community can be retooled on a much smaller scale to suit the needs of small businesses and organizations. I'm actually really having fun divising interesting online strategies for fish markets, neighborhood organizations, pasta companies, food businesses, non-profits and other local communities these days.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Allen/1110152144 Dave Allen

    Wendy, believe me I have those tools, mainly Co-Tweet and Tweetdeck, the question though is this…why should we be spending an excessive amount of our very limited time juggling with these streams? I'm all about quality these days which ensures the conversations online are applicable to my work and thinking. Ergo, less followers = equal higher quality interactions. In other words, mimic what I do offline, such as the gathering I'm going to tonight in Portland..

  • http://www.wswilliams.com/ wendy

    I guess in a way we are talking apples and oranges then.

    You are addressing social media as a forum for “scenemaking” (for lack of a better word) where I suppose I use it more for information exchange, not specific to my whereabouts at any given time (which is at the crux of your essay on privacy, come to think of it ;-)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Allen/1110152144 Dave Allen

    Wendy, no there's some confusion here for sure. I definitely don't use social media for “scenemaking” it's all business for me.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Allen/1110152144 Dave Allen

    For those who are interested, here's a Guardian UK column on the battle between Gowalla and Foursquare http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/pda/2010/mar/24...

  • http://www.charliequirk.net/ Charlie Quirk

    Really interesting post Dave.

    Four Square to me seems useless, and as you said, its simplistic descriptive nature does little to add depth and context to its geo-location functionality.

    But I think a central part of the rise of the Web 2.0 noveau riche have got there because of Woody Allen's mantra, “90% of success is just showing up.” Let's face it, the social web ain't the level of thinking of Crick and Watson toiling away in obscurity in a lab. It is the personal brand goldrush where people are seeking to cash in on their visibility. The less remarkable one’s personal story/message is, the more they feel the need to crank up their numbers as a measure of relevance of self-worth. Four Square adds a dimension to this mindset as many of these “social media guru/gimps” love the ego stroke they get from meeting with as many of their own kind as possible.

    I’m of two schools of thought on Dunbar’s number. It makes complete sense that there is only so many relationships we can really develop meaningful discourse with. On the flip side, this is based on the premise that “being meaningful” is a widely desired goal. If one plans on using the web to foster real relationships, then yes, being meaningful would be a prereq. However, most of web 2.0’s snake oil salesman would take 30,000 strangers following them than 150 close friends any day of the week.
    As Renny Gleeson wrote in a 2008 article in Creativity magazine, “A great story, unread isn't” – I believe that people are of the mindset that the more the merrier, and if meaningful connection is a by-product of this, then that’s a bonus.

    As far as original thought is involved, Shirky's is a great analogy. The amount of content published on the web is not going to change — we need better, more robust filters to decipher the crap from the critical.

  • michaelpetricone

    Dave, thoughtful and provocative as always. I'm not sure Dunbar's number applies to social networks tho. Dunbar quantifies close relationships, and social networks are primarily used to maintain attenuated relationships (FB doesn't recognize this, hence the goofy messages urging me to “reconnect” with my wife). While tight relationships are important, don't underestimate the importance of attenuated relationships — they expose us to influences and skill sets outside our immediate social circle. “Tight bands of marginal weirdos” do great things, but today creativity also can arise from dispersed groups with minimal personal ties working asynchronously and independently. Great seeing you @ SX! Cheers, MP

    Good things come from close relationships – as you noted a “closely

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Allen/1110152144 Dave Allen

    Michael, yes you're right. Dunbar mentions the disparity with his “numbers” and social networking when he says social networks are useful for long distance, arms length relationships. HIs point, I guess, is that most Facebook users, millions of them, are not using FBook for business. His interest, as is mine currently, is how one keeps the quality of the discourse once we all get beyond a certain number. Quality is perhaps less important than quantity when it comes to business use of FBook and Twitter?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Allen/1110152144 Dave Allen

    Charlie,

    You're right, as is Michael to whom I responded below, that Dunbar's number doesn't correlate directly, yet the beauty of the promise of social media was how it dismantled old-fashioned PR and its controlled messaging model. If someone is now posting up tweets in a direct marketing fashion, to 10,000 followers, doesn't that poison the well, or at least muddy the waters, around “earned media?”

  • michaelpetricone

    Dave, thoughtful and provocative as always. I'm not sure Dunbar's number applies to social networks tho. Dunbar quantifies close relationships, and social networks are primarily used to maintain attenuated relationships (FB doesn't recognize this, hence the goofy messages urging me to “reconnect” with my wife). While tight relationships are important, don't underestimate the importance of attenuated relationships — they expose us to influences and skill sets outside our immediate social circle. “Tight bands of marginal weirdos” do great things, but today creativity also can arise from dispersed groups with minimal personal ties working asynchronously and independently. Great seeing you @ SX! Cheers, MP

    Good things come from close relationships – as you noted a “closely

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Allen/1110152144 Dave Allen

    Michael, yes you're right. Dunbar mentions the disparity with his “numbers” and social networking when he says social networks are useful for long distance, arms length relationships. HIs point, I guess, is that most Facebook users, millions of them, are not using FBook for business. His interest, as is mine currently, is how one keeps the quality of the discourse once we all get beyond a certain number. Quality is perhaps less important than quantity when it comes to business use of FBook and Twitter?

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dave-Allen/1110152144 Dave Allen

    Charlie,

    You're right, as is Michael to whom I responded below, that Dunbar's number doesn't correlate directly, yet the beauty of the promise of social media was how it dismantled old-fashioned PR and its controlled messaging model. If someone is now posting up tweets in a direct marketing fashion, to 10,000 followers, doesn't that poison the well, or at least muddy the waters, around “earned media?”

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